#6 If You Need to Put Negotiating Pressure on the Other Side, Try Good Guy/Bad Guy
By Roger Dawson
Good Guy/Bad Guy is one of the best known negotiating gambits. Charles Dickens first wrote about it in his book Great Expectations.
In the opening scene of the story, the young hero Pip is in the graveyard when out of
the sinister mist comes a large, very frightening man. This man is a convict, and he has
chains around his legs. He asks Pip to go into the village and bring back food and a file,
so he can remove the chains. The convict has a dilemma, however. He wants to scare the
child into doing as he's asked, yet he mustn't put so much pressure on Pip that he'll be
frozen in place or bolt into town to tell the policeman. The solution to the convict's problem is to use the Good Guy/Bad Guy Gambit. Taking
some liberty with the original work, what the convict says in effect, is "You know,
Pip, I like you, and I would never do anything to hurt you, but I have to tell you that
waiting out here in the mist is a friend of mine and he can be violent and I'm the only
one who can control him. If I don't get these chains off-if you don't help me get them
off-then my friend might come after you. So, you have to help me. Do you understand?"
Good Guy/Bad Guy is a very effective way of putting pressure on people, without
confrontation.
I'm sure you've seen Good Guy/Bad Guy used in the old police movies. Officers bring a
suspect into the police station for questioning, and the first detective to interrogate
him is a rough, tough, mean-looking guy. He threatens the suspect with all kinds of things
that they're going to do to him. Then he's mysteriously called away to take a phone call,
and the second detective, who's brought in to look after the prisoner while the first
detective is away, is the warmest, nicest guy in the entire world. He sits down and makes
friends with the prisoner. He gives him a cigarette and says, "Listen kid, it's
really not as bad as all that. I've taken a liking to you. I know the ropes around here.
Why don't you let me see what I can do for you?" It's a real temptation to think that the Good Guy's on your side when, of course, he
really isn't. Then the Good Guy would go ahead and close on what salespeople would
recognize as a minor point close. "All I think the detectives really need to
know," he tells the prisoner, "is where did you buy the gun?" What he
really wants to know is, "Where did you hide the body?" Starting out with a
minor point like that and then working up from there, works very well, doesn't it? The car salesperson says to you, "If you did invest in this car would you get the
blue or the gray?" "Would you want the vinyl upholstery or the leather?"
Little decisions lead to big ones. The real estate salesperson who says, "If you did
invest in this home, how would you arrange the furniture in the living room?" Or,
"Which of these bedrooms would be the nursery for your new baby?" Little
decisions grow to big decisions.
People use Good Guy/Bad Guy on you much more than you might believe. Look out for it
anytime you find yourself dealing with two people. Chances are you'll see it being used on
you, in one form or another. For example, you may sell corporate health insurance plans
for an HMO and have made an appointment to meet with the Vice-President of Human Resources
at a company that manufactures lawn mowers. When the secretary leads you in to meet with
the vice president, you find to your surprise that the president of the company wants to
sit in and listen in on your presentation. That's negotiating two on one, which is not
good, but you go ahead and everything appears to be going along fine. You feel that you have a good chance of closing the sale, until the president suddenly
starts getting irritated. Eventually he says to his vice president, "Look, I don't
think these people are interested in making a serious proposal to us. I'm sorry, but I've
got things to do." Then he storms out of the room. This really shakes you up if
you're not used to negotiating. Then the vice-president says, "Wow. Sometimes he gets
that way, but I really like the plan that you presented, and I think we can still work
this out. If you could be a little more flexible on your price, then I think we can still
put it together. Tell you what-why don't you let me see what I can do for you with
him?" If you don't realize what they're doing to you, you'll hear yourself say something
like, "What do you think the president would agree to?" Then it won't be long
before you'll have the vice-president negotiating for you-and he or she is not even on
your side.
If you think I'm exaggerating on this one, consider this: Haven't you, at one time or
another, said to a car salesperson, "What do you think you could get your sales
manager to agree to?" As if the salesperson is on your side, not on theirs? Haven't we all at one time been buying real estate and have found the property we want
to buy, so we say to the agent that has been helping us find the property, "What do
you think the sellers would take?" Let me ask you something. Who is your agent
working for? Who is paying her? It's not you, is it? She is working for the seller and yet
she has effectively played Good Guy/Bad Guy with us. So, look out for it, because you run
into it a lot.
Power Negotiators use several Counter-Gambits to Good Guy/Bad Guy:
- The first Counter-Gambit is simply to identify the Gambit. Although
there are many other ways to handle the problem, this one is so effective that it's
probably the only one you need to know. Good Guy/Bad Guy is so well known that it
embarrasses people when they get caught using it. When you notice the other person using
it you should smile and say, "Oh, come on-you aren't going to play Good Guy/Bad Guy
with me are you? Come on, sit down, let's work this thing out." Usually their
embarrassment will cause them to retreat from the position.
- You could respond by creating a bad guy of your own. Tell them that
you'd love to do what they want, but you have people back in the head office who are
obsessed with sticking to the program. You can always make a fictitious bad guy appear
more unyielding than a bad guy who is present at the negotiation.
- You could go over their heads to their supervisor. For example, if
you're dealing with a buyer and head buyer at a distributorship, you might call the owner
of the distributorship and say, "Your people were playing Good Guy/Bad Guy with me.
You don't approve of that kind of thing, do you?" (Always be cautious about going
over someone's head. The strategy can easily backfire because of the bad feelings it can
cause.)
- Sometimes just letting the bad guy talk resolves the problem,
especially if he's being obnoxious. Eventually his own people will get tired of hearing it
and tell him to knock it off.
- You can counter Good Guy/Bad Guy by saying to the Good Guy, "Look,
I understand what you two are doing to me. From now on anything that he says, I'm going to
attribute to you also." Now you have two bad guys to deal with, so it diffuses the
Gambit. Sometimes just identifying them both in your own mind as bad guys will handle it,
without you having to come out and accuse them.
- If the other side shows up with an attorney or controller who is clearly there
to play bad guy, jump right in and forestall their role. Say to them, "I'm
sure you're here to play bad guy, but let's not take that approach. I'm as eager to find a
solution to this situation as you are, so why don't we all take a win-win approach. Fair
enough?" This really takes the wind out of their sails.
This Gambit is very, very effective even when everybody knows what's going on. It was
how Presidents Carter and Reagan got the hostages out of Iran, wasn't it? You remember
that? Carter had lost the election. He was very eager to do something about the Iranian
hostage situation before he left the White House and Reagan could take credit for their
release. So, he started playing Good Guy/Bad Guy with the Ayatollah. He said to him,
"If I were you, I'd settle this thing with me. Don't take a chance on this new team
coming into office in January. My goodness, have you taken a look at these guys? The
President's a former cowboy actor. The Vice President is the former head of the C.I.A. The
Secretary of State is Alexander Haig. These guys are crazier than Englishmen. There's no
telling what they might do." Reagan, playing along with it, said, "Hey, if I
were you, I'd settle with Carter. He's a nice guy. You're definitely not going to like
what I'll have to say about it, when I get into the White House." And sure enough, we
saw the hostages being released on the morning of Reagan's inauguration. Of course, the Iranians were aware of Good Guy/Bad Guy, but they didn't want to take a
chance that Reagan would follow through with his threats. It demonstrated that these
Gambits work even when the other side knows what you're doing. In 1994, Jimmy Carter was again called upon to play the Good Guy when he and Colen
Powell went to Haiti to see if they could get General Cedras to give up power without a
fight. Powell was there to impress the might of the armed forces upon Cedras. Carter was
there to cozy up the dictator, even suggesting he come to Plains, Georgia, and teach a
class in Sunday School when the crisis was over.
KEY POINTS TO REMEMBER:
- People use Good Guy/Bad Guy on you much more than you might believe. Look out for it
whenever you're negotiating with two or more people.
- It is a very effective way of putting pressure on the other person without creating
confrontation.
- Counter it by identifying it. It's such a well-known tactic that when you catch them
using it, they get embarrassed and back off.
Don't be concerned that the other side knows what you're doing. Even if they do it can
still be a powerful tactic. In fact, when you're Power Negotiating with someone who
understands all of these Gambits, it becomes more fun. It's like playing chess with a
person of equal skill rather than someone whom you can easily outsmart.
This article is excerpted in part from Roger Dawson's new book-Secrets of Power
Negotiating, published by Career Press and on sale in bookstores everywhere for $24.99.
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